Toribash
Originally Posted by Acavado View Post
Why is it unfair to lift someone in the beginner, and fair to lift them at the end? Why is it different to put your opponent in a position of no control later in the match than it is to try to in the beginning?

It is unfair (to some) to lift someone at the beginning of the match because it decreases their chances of winning from the start.
Many people decide to pout about it, not realizing that nothing could be done about it and to just get over it.
BAD LUCK
Shovel is umm... a little , no a big kind of cheating . They're annoying and hard to avoid . might atract people to hate you more .
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Well, why is it unfair to have an advantage at that start? Why wait till the end?
Just a cheap way to win.
You basically give them no chance and it takes the point out of the game.
Just by living, people hurt others without even realizing it. So long as humanity exists, hate will also exist. There is no peace in this cursed world. War is just a crime paid for by the pain of the defeated...

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But it's been said earlier that it can be countered. If a move only works against non-shovel-like moves, it isn't a very good move. You do have a chance.
Yes, but people don't want to have to use shovel counters every game because they dont know what their opponent is doing.
Just by living, people hurt others without even realizing it. So long as humanity exists, hate will also exist. There is no peace in this cursed world. War is just a crime paid for by the pain of the defeated...

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Consider it like this.

It's like the grenade launcher in call of duty games.
The "1 button" move in Tekken / Street Fighter games.

Sure, they get you kills, but people hate you for it.
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