Originally Posted by lillian

I want to make it clear that any further attempts to spread literal Russian state propaganda and deliberate disinformation will be met with severe infractions.

Thank you for taking the time to give us a first-hand account of what’s happening Hug, please don’t hesitate to get in touch if anyone is giving you grief.

Originally Posted by lillian

I want to make it clear that any further attempts to spread literal Russian state propaganda and deliberate disinformation will be met with severe infractions.

Originally Posted by Smaguris

and where they get their information and potentially come to more healthy conclustions.

Could you expand on what that entails? For example, if I posted a video of Russian war prisoners being beaten and executed by Ukranians, would you consider that propaganda? I'm trying to figure out whether this thread is for the purpose of realistically documenting war or is it solely pro-Ukraine.

Denazification is a set of measures in relation to the nazified mass of the population, which technically cannot be subjected to direct punishment as war criminals.

The Nazis who took up arms should be destroyed to the maximum on the battlefield. There should be no significant differences between the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the so-called national battalions (NOTE: Idk what that means, we have no such thing as "national battalions"), as well as the territorial defense that joined these two types of military formations.
There must be a total lustration. Any organizations that have associated themselves with the practice of Nazism have been liquidated and banned. However, in addition to the top, a significant part of the masses, which are passive Nazis, accomplices of Nazism, are also guilty. They supported and indulged "Nazi" power. The just punishment of this part of the population is possible only as bearing the inevitable hardships of a just war against the "Nazi" system, waged as carefully and prudently as possible in relation to civilians.

Denazification can only be carried out by the winner, which implies (1) his absolute control over the denazification process and (2) the power to ensure such control. In this respect, a denazified country cannot be sovereign. The denazifying state - Russia - cannot proceed from a liberal approach with regard to denazification. The ideology of the denazifier cannot be disputed by the guilty party subjected to denazification.

The terms of denazification can in no way be less than one generation, which must be born, grow up and reach maturity under the conditions of denazification.

The collective West is itself the designer, source and sponsor of Ukrainian Nazism

The name "Ukraine" apparently cannot be retained as the title of any fully denazified state entity in a territory liberated from the Nazi regime.

In fact, their (Ukrainian) political aspiration cannot be neutral - expiation of guilt before Russia for treating it as an enemy can be realized only by relying on Russia in the processes of restoration, revival and development

Denazification will inevitably also be a de-Ukrainization - a rejection of the large-scale artificial inflation of the ethnic component of self-identification of the population of the territories of "historical" "Little Russia" and "New Russia", begun by the Soviet authorities.

Ukrainism is an artificial anti-Russian construction that does not have its own civilizational content, a subordinate element of an alien and alien civilization.

The "Catholic province" (Western Ukraine as part of five regions) is unlikely to become part of the pro-Russian territories. The line of alienation, however, will be found empirically. It will remain hostile to Russia, but forcibly neutral and demilitarized Ukraine with formally banned Nazism. The haters of Russia will go there. The guarantee of the preservation of this residual Ukraine in a neutral state should be the threat of an immediate continuation of the military operation in case of non-compliance with the listed requirements. Perhaps this will require a permanent Russian military presence on its territory. From the exclusion line to the Russian border there will be a territory of potential integration into Russian civilization, which is anti-fascist in its internal nature.

In this case, the necessary initial steps of denazification can be defined as follows:
- liquidation of armed "Nazi" formations (which means any armed formations of Ukraine, including the Armed Forces of Ukraine), as well as the military, informational, educational infrastructure that ensures their activity
- installation of the Russian information space;
- the withdrawal of educational materials and the prohibition of educational programs at all levels containing Nazi ideological guidelines (NOTE: they mean Ukrainian history and everything regarding Ukrainian culture and identity as they call it "large-scale artificial inflation" above);
-the adoption at the local level, under the supervision of Russia, of primary normative acts of denazification "from below", a ban on all types and forms of the revival of "Nazi" ideology;
-creation of permanent denazification bodies for a period of 25 years.

Russia will have no allies in the denazification of Ukraine. Since this is a purely Russian business. And also since not only the Bandera version of Nazi Ukraine will be eradicated, but including, and above all, Western totalitarianism(LOOOL), the imposed programs of civilizational degradation and disintegration

Originally Posted by Smaguris

Finally, a lot of media are mislabeling photos/videos at this point in a fight for clicks. For example the photos bellow have been spread as Bucha all over the media but records show that they're not taken in the same location. Not that it makes these killings any different, but it shows that a lot of misinformation is being spread about these events.

Originally Posted by Bison

Polacy też już nie jeden raz w historii przekonali się do czego zdolna jest rosyjska "armia", dlatego tak bardzo wam pomagamy.
Stary koń jestem ale jak na to patrzę to mi się łzy na oczy cisną.

Narazie przyjeliśmy z rodziną na 2 tygodnie znajomych z Ukrainy (jechali dalej do Wrocławia).
Wpłaciłem też trochę hajsu z kolejnej pensji głównie na zbiórki dla dzieci, bo to one w przyszłych latach będą odbudowywać wasze państwo.
Bije się z własnymi myślami bo z jednej strony mam konserwatywne podejście i nie chce zaostrzenia konfliktu (jakbyśmy się dołączyli to dla Polski to jest samobójstwo) a z drugiej strony ciężko się patrzy na waszą heroiczną ale jednak samotną walkę.

Trzymaj się tam.

„Jeśli myślisz, że zatrzymamy się na Ukrainie, zastanów się 300 razy. Przypomnę, że Ukraina jest tylko etapem pośrednim w zapewnieniu bezpieczeństwa strategicznego Federacji Rosyjskiej”