Original Post
How to Fix the ToriEconomy
Hello my fellow Toribashians. I have an idea to fix the ToriEconomy.
- Enable players to own an item ONCE (rare items will be tradeable such as Smaguris color, Diamond color, Alpha Helmet, and more)
- Forge custom items for TC
- Disable trading items unless its a flame, rare item, or a custom item.
- Enable players to own an item ONCE (rare items will be tradeable such as Smaguris color, Diamond color, Alpha Helmet, and more)
- Forge custom items for TC
- Disable trading items unless its a flame, rare item, or a custom item.
Last edited by Karstnator; Dec 29, 2025 at 03:30 PM.
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I get where this idea is coming from, because the economy does feel stale. There are tons of items around, TC barely moves, and most trading happens between the same few people.
That said, I don’t think stuff like locking items to one owner or disabling most trading really works for Toribash now. Those kinds of changes make sense in a new game, not one that’s been around for almost 20 years.
At this point, items aren’t just cosmetics. People have spent years collecting and trading them. Changing ownership rules this late would feel less like fixing the economy and more like breaking a system players are already invested in.
Forging custom items for TC is easily the best part of the idea. We badly need more TC sinks, especially ones that let people personalise their stuff or show status. That actually gives TC a reason to be spent.
And to be fair, we already have item forgers. The issue isn’t that the system doesn’t exist, it’s that it’s barely pushed or expanded. Improving that makes way more sense than killing trading.
Removing normal item trading would probably just freeze the market. Traders and collectors might be annoying, but they’re a big reason TC still moves at all.
The bigger problem isn’t item supply, it’s demand. Not enough new players, and not enough things that make people want to spend TC once they have it.
Toribash doesn’t need a full reset. It needs small, additive changes. Better TC sinks, better use of existing systems, and reasons to spend TC without wrecking what’s already there.
That said, I don’t think stuff like locking items to one owner or disabling most trading really works for Toribash now. Those kinds of changes make sense in a new game, not one that’s been around for almost 20 years.
At this point, items aren’t just cosmetics. People have spent years collecting and trading them. Changing ownership rules this late would feel less like fixing the economy and more like breaking a system players are already invested in.
Forging custom items for TC is easily the best part of the idea. We badly need more TC sinks, especially ones that let people personalise their stuff or show status. That actually gives TC a reason to be spent.
And to be fair, we already have item forgers. The issue isn’t that the system doesn’t exist, it’s that it’s barely pushed or expanded. Improving that makes way more sense than killing trading.
Removing normal item trading would probably just freeze the market. Traders and collectors might be annoying, but they’re a big reason TC still moves at all.
The bigger problem isn’t item supply, it’s demand. Not enough new players, and not enough things that make people want to spend TC once they have it.
Toribash doesn’t need a full reset. It needs small, additive changes. Better TC sinks, better use of existing systems, and reasons to spend TC without wrecking what’s already there.
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Originally Posted by max
Toribash doesn’t need a full reset.
I didn't say anything about a full reset.
Originally Posted by max
Better TC sinks
Wouldn't owning a regular item once be a better TC sink? at this point, they're just moving items (that used to cost a lot/less) around.
- Also, I think it would be great to be given a few ST when owning a full color that isn't rare (Smaguris/Diamond colors)
- Also, it would be a nice TC sink if they could make a regular item rare by recoloring an existing item someone owns (you can already do this with USD, but only a few people used it)
Originally Posted by max
better use of existing systems
What systems?
Name change?
Bounty system (i think this is gonezo I haven't seen it lately after Swaves sent himself the money while banned)
Double it? (idek if they'll put this out on April)
Originally Posted by max
reasons to spend TC without wrecking what’s already there.
I believe you need to demolish a structure to build a better one.
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Originally Posted by Karstnator
I didn't say anything about a full reset.
Wouldn't owning a regular item once be a better TC sink? at this point, they're just moving items (that used to cost a lot/less) around.
- Also, I think it would be great to be given a few ST when owning a full color that isn't rare (Smaguris/Diamond colors)
- Also, it would be a nice TC sink if they could make a regular item rare by recoloring an existing item someone owns (you can already do this with USD, but only a few people used it)
What systems?
Name change?
Bounty system (i think this is gonezo I haven't seen it lately after Swaves sent himself the money while banned)
Double it? (idek if they'll put this out on April)
I believe you need to demolish a structure to build a better one.
I’m not saying you’re arguing for a full reset, so let me clear that up first. My point is that the current structure itself is outdated, and small additive changes haven’t fixed the problem.
When I talk about existing systems, I mean things like name changes, bounty, double TC events, and forgers. They either barely remove TC anymore, aren’t active, or don’t scale with how concentrated TC has become.
On the item side, limiting regular items to one per player, with customs and forged items exempt, would reduce hoarding. I agree it helps. Where I disagree is treating that as a complete fix.
TC itself is still heavily concentrated. You’ve got players buying out other players’ TC in bulk, sitting on 90-100mil TC, then selling it on again later. That TC isn’t circulating through normal gameplay and it isn’t being removed by those systems.
Regular items still don’t create real demand. They just stop stacking. Without sinks that permanently remove TC, especially from players with ALOT of TC, the economy stays stagnant regardless of ownership limits.
So while your suggestion helps at the surface level, it doesn’t address the core issue. That’s why I think deeper structural changes are still needed alongside any ownership limits
Last edited by max; Dec 30, 2025 at 06:17 PM.
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Originally Posted by max
When I talk about existing systems, I mean things like name changes, bounty, double TC events, and forgers. They either barely remove TC anymore, aren’t active, or don’t scale with how concentrated TC has become.
As mentioned in my previous post, bounty doesn't exist anymore.
Also, I remember someone getting 8kk from Double It
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On the item side, limiting regular items to one per player, with customs and forged items exempt, would reduce hoarding. I agree it helps. Where I disagree is treating that as a complete fix.[/QUOTE]
I didn't say it would be a silver bullet.
Originally Posted by max
TC itself is still heavily concentrated. You’ve got players buying out other players’ TC in bulk, sitting on 90-100mil TC, then selling it on again later. That TC isn’t circulating through normal gameplay and it isn’t being removed by those systems.
Where did you get 90-100mil TC? if you look at the Selling TC threads, 1.4m, 3.5m, and 5m and iTemp has around 60m TC so where did you get those numbers? your data is incorrect.
Originally Posted by max
Regular items still don’t create real demand. They just stop stacking. Without sinks that permanently remove TC, especially from players with ALOT of TC, the economy stays stagnant regardless of ownership limits.
It sounds like you're focusing on money supply? My focus is consumer behavior. Trading shouldn't be the game right now cause some players play the market instead of playing Toribash. By disabling standard trading for regular items, we move the economy from a speculative bubble (where players buy items just to sell them) to a prestige economy. You don't buy an item to flip it; you buy it to keep it.
Originally Posted by max
So while your suggestion helps at the surface level, it doesn’t address the core issue. That’s why I think deeper structural changes are still needed alongside any ownership limits
And what are your suggestions? you've contributed a whole bunch of nothing recently. My "forging" suggestion is a structural change. By allowing players to mint custom items for a TC fee, we are creating a bottomless sink. As long as players want to look unique, TC will be deleted from the game forever. This is a deeper structural fix because it ties the economy directly to player creativity.
Take the L lil bro
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