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[Forum] Secrets behind Successful Marketing
How to be a Successful Marketer.
This tutorial will be composed of tips, advice and practical examples on basic and advanced marketing. Post in this thread if you want something cleared. This tutorial will help you become a better marketer or make you one if you're new.
WARNING: Do not post in this thread for advice.
Gathering Toricredits
If you ask someone how you can earn easy toricredits they'll probably reply 'dueling and marketing'. These two terms refer to options you have open once toricredits are available to you. If you have enough toricredits, you have some to toss and play around with. First you will be needing to have them in the first place. This is what I'll be covering in this section.
A) Tourneys
Earning toricredits can be a bummer once it comes to tourneys. You'll have to reply on your skills and in-game experience if you are planning to earn toricredits in this way. This can prove easy if you're good at certain mods. The official tourney server offers tourney prize ranging from 500tc to 1,000tc. If you look at this from a different perspective. This is free money.
But this also can be a time-consumer, since you have to wait and spectate if you have been knocked out.
B) Texturing
Another way of earning 'free' toricredits is texturing. You could make texture sets or head textures which are often easy to sell. You will need to know how to use programmes such as Photoshop and GIMP in order to do so.
Now that we have toricredits, let's move on to the real deal. Marketing.
Buying your goods
Now, the target of this section will be teaching you how to buy goods at a profitable price. And in the next section - selling them. I'll be giving you some general knowledge on price checking. And later I'll lay out some tips. Having made myself clear, let's move on.
A) Planning it out
If you're going to start marketing, (i.e. buying goods and selling them at a profitable rate) you'll need to plan everything out initially.
First, you'll need to fix your budget. Never spend all your tc at once.. It's a very bad idea. if you go bankrupt, that's a disturbing thought. Having fixed your budget, we next have to target our profit.
Ex.
If we were to start out with 10,000 TC. We'd atleast think of making 5,000 more out of it. The ratio of planning depends on what you are willing to sell. If you willing to buy/sell a joint. Prices may drop/increase expeditiously without you even knowing it.
B) Selecting your item
You will want to select something that's available for an affordable price and easy to sell. Avoid high-qi items, unless you have friends who have high belts. So, what does that sum up to? You can start with textures and joints. Don't buy a flame unless it's not attractive. People tend to buy much attractive flames. Last time I've checked, 128 textures are sold for 1.5k each. So if you want to buy them, I wouldn't buy them for more than 1.2k each. And yes, it is possible to get such good deals. You have to target the people you want to buy from.
About dealing with flames
If you're new, avoid them. Once purchasing a flame (for marketing purposes) keep care of:
Dealing with Joints
Selling your goods
Let's go for something practical.
Say, I want to sell a 512x512 Head Texture. The torishop/market price is around 20,000TC. If I were to buy it, I wouldn't buy it for more than 18,000TC. If I were to sell it, I wouldn't go below 19,500TC. If I were very desperate, I would go for 19,000TC, but never below.
Things to keep care.
Repeating this process will hopefully give you a hefty amount of TC. Remember, never be cocky, and stick firm with your price. Show an attitude that you aren't dying for the item. This will allow the seller to ask for large sums of TC. Don't fall for it. Use your common sense and do what's right. You're good to go.
This tutorial will be composed of tips, advice and practical examples on basic and advanced marketing. Post in this thread if you want something cleared. This tutorial will help you become a better marketer or make you one if you're new.
WARNING: Do not post in this thread for advice.
Gathering Toricredits
If you ask someone how you can earn easy toricredits they'll probably reply 'dueling and marketing'. These two terms refer to options you have open once toricredits are available to you. If you have enough toricredits, you have some to toss and play around with. First you will be needing to have them in the first place. This is what I'll be covering in this section.
A) Tourneys
Earning toricredits can be a bummer once it comes to tourneys. You'll have to reply on your skills and in-game experience if you are planning to earn toricredits in this way. This can prove easy if you're good at certain mods. The official tourney server offers tourney prize ranging from 500tc to 1,000tc. If you look at this from a different perspective. This is free money.
But this also can be a time-consumer, since you have to wait and spectate if you have been knocked out.
B) Texturing
Another way of earning 'free' toricredits is texturing. You could make texture sets or head textures which are often easy to sell. You will need to know how to use programmes such as Photoshop and GIMP in order to do so.
Now that we have toricredits, let's move on to the real deal. Marketing.
Buying your goods
Now, the target of this section will be teaching you how to buy goods at a profitable price. And in the next section - selling them. I'll be giving you some general knowledge on price checking. And later I'll lay out some tips. Having made myself clear, let's move on.
A) Planning it out
If you're going to start marketing, (i.e. buying goods and selling them at a profitable rate) you'll need to plan everything out initially.
First, you'll need to fix your budget. Never spend all your tc at once.. It's a very bad idea. if you go bankrupt, that's a disturbing thought. Having fixed your budget, we next have to target our profit.
Ex.
If we were to start out with 10,000 TC. We'd atleast think of making 5,000 more out of it. The ratio of planning depends on what you are willing to sell. If you willing to buy/sell a joint. Prices may drop/increase expeditiously without you even knowing it.
B) Selecting your item
You will want to select something that's available for an affordable price and easy to sell. Avoid high-qi items, unless you have friends who have high belts. So, what does that sum up to? You can start with textures and joints. Don't buy a flame unless it's not attractive. People tend to buy much attractive flames. Last time I've checked, 128 textures are sold for 1.5k each. So if you want to buy them, I wouldn't buy them for more than 1.2k each. And yes, it is possible to get such good deals. You have to target the people you want to buy from.
About dealing with flames
If you're new, avoid them. Once purchasing a flame (for marketing purposes) keep care of:
- Size of the flame - Don't let it be obnoxiously large or small. People want something humane, well most people do.
- Body parts - Where the flame belongs. Users tend to buy hand, head and feet flames, sometimes chest. A pec or a tricep flame would be a lot harder to sell.
- Colors of the flame - Judging from experience, most people like dark and moderate flames than light and huge ones.
- Forger - Keep care while selecting your Forger, famous forgers such as FNugget and gman80 are famous and their flames are easy to sell.
Dealing with Joints
- The color of the joint - If it's an attractive color. (Ex. Sphnix isn't attractive compared to gold and static.)
- QI Factor - Most buyers might not have the same QI. Avoid High QI joints.
- Outdated Market price - Check the market, sometimes they are not accurate. Use the price check megathread made by phail.
Selling your goods
Let's go for something practical.
Say, I want to sell a 512x512 Head Texture. The torishop/market price is around 20,000TC. If I were to buy it, I wouldn't buy it for more than 18,000TC. If I were to sell it, I wouldn't go below 19,500TC. If I were very desperate, I would go for 19,000TC, but never below.
Things to keep care.
- Make sure you aren't being scammed. Always take screenshots when dealing ingame.
- NEVER get involved with accounts. Never.
- Make sure you aren't headed for a loss. Wait if needed, there's no rush.
- Never give up, wait and put it up for market, prices will reduce, cheaper ones will get sold out. You can sell you item for a profit.
Repeating this process will hopefully give you a hefty amount of TC. Remember, never be cocky, and stick firm with your price. Show an attitude that you aren't dying for the item. This will allow the seller to ask for large sums of TC. Don't fall for it. Use your common sense and do what's right. You're good to go.
Last edited by list; Jun 20, 2014 at 08:25 AM.
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This goes against everything I've experienced marketing.
1. This shouldn't be based on your personal opinion, it should be based on facts and evidence.
2. You're not bankrupt if your buying items with intended profit, your money is just frozen in assets until you sell them.
3. Your market prices are wrong. I saw the section saying not to buy 128x128 textures for over 1.2k. I've never seen anyone sell them that low, I'd rather buy three 128x128 textures for 1.5k each and sell them for 1,685 toricredits on the market, that equates to a 185tc profit per texture, must faster than trying to find someone selling for 1.2k
I also noticed the section about the 512x512 head, saying you wouldn't buy for over 18k if the market price was 19.5k. I could buy one for 18k, sell it for 19,490 toricredits in the market and get a profit of around 1.5k for every 512x512 head texture you sell.
Essentially, don't try to milk massive profit off every item, milk small profits of lots of items is the best way to make profit.
4. Your way of finding out the most popular items are wrong, sphinx is practically the same colour as gold, but way cheaper, making it a more popular choice than gold.
Also when your ingame, check the force and relax colours of your opponents and other players. Take this into consideration when buying items, it's a really good measure of a items popularity.
5. You forgot to add infomation about haggling. Haggling can be the difference to making profit or losing profit.
1. This shouldn't be based on your personal opinion, it should be based on facts and evidence.
2. You're not bankrupt if your buying items with intended profit, your money is just frozen in assets until you sell them.
3. Your market prices are wrong. I saw the section saying not to buy 128x128 textures for over 1.2k. I've never seen anyone sell them that low, I'd rather buy three 128x128 textures for 1.5k each and sell them for 1,685 toricredits on the market, that equates to a 185tc profit per texture, must faster than trying to find someone selling for 1.2k
I also noticed the section about the 512x512 head, saying you wouldn't buy for over 18k if the market price was 19.5k. I could buy one for 18k, sell it for 19,490 toricredits in the market and get a profit of around 1.5k for every 512x512 head texture you sell.
Essentially, don't try to milk massive profit off every item, milk small profits of lots of items is the best way to make profit.
4. Your way of finding out the most popular items are wrong, sphinx is practically the same colour as gold, but way cheaper, making it a more popular choice than gold.
Also when your ingame, check the force and relax colours of your opponents and other players. Take this into consideration when buying items, it's a really good measure of a items popularity.
5. You forgot to add infomation about haggling. Haggling can be the difference to making profit or losing profit.
Swaves, upon myself being a secret undercover marketeer, I am here to correct you on one statement:
The #3, you say that no one sells 128 textures for that price? Maybe it's because you bump them all up to 1.5k each. I can easily buy 128 textures for 1.2k-1.4k with no problem unless someone goes in to kill good profit. Hell, I bought 4 once for 4k, and made 2k profit.
As for the OP, one flaw:
GMan flames can run pretty cheap, I had one that was a 71 ID and only sold it for 35k after barley pulling off a 2k profit. Most flames are looked at from the size, color, and the part it is on more then the forger and age.
The #3, you say that no one sells 128 textures for that price? Maybe it's because you bump them all up to 1.5k each. I can easily buy 128 textures for 1.2k-1.4k with no problem unless someone goes in to kill good profit. Hell, I bought 4 once for 4k, and made 2k profit.
As for the OP, one flaw:
GMan flames can run pretty cheap, I had one that was a 71 ID and only sold it for 35k after barley pulling off a 2k profit. Most flames are looked at from the size, color, and the part it is on more then the forger and age.
Originally Posted by Swaves
This goes against everything I've experienced marketing.
1. This shouldn't be based on your personal opinion, it should be based on facts and evidence.
2. You're not bankrupt if your buying items with intended profit, your money is just frozen in assets until you sell them.
3. Your market prices are wrong. I saw the section saying not to buy 128x128 textures for over 1.2k. I've never seen anyone sell them that low, I'd rather buy three 128x128 textures for 1.5k each and sell them for 1,685 toricredits on the market, that equates to a 185tc profit per texture, must faster than trying to find someone selling for 1.2k
I also noticed the section about the 512x512 head, saying you wouldn't buy for over 18k if the market price was 19.5k. I could buy one for 18k, sell it for 19,490 toricredits in the market and get a profit of around 1.5k for every 512x512 head texture you sell.
Essentially, don't try to milk massive profit off every item, milk small profits of lots of items is the best way to make profit.
4. Your way of finding out the most popular items are wrong, sphinx is practically the same colour as gold, but way cheaper, making it a more popular choice than gold.
Also when your ingame, check the force and relax colours of your opponents and other players. Take this into consideration when buying items, it's a really good measure of a items popularity.
5. You forgot to add infomation about haggling. Haggling can be the difference to making profit or losing profit.
Swaves, well the point you raised that 'it' shouldn't be based on personal interests and should rather be based on facts, if you read my tutorial carefully you'll get the impression that I mentioned 'universal taste' which refers to what is liked in common. You stated that I shouldn't 'milk' too much at once, well let me tell you this. First of all, they're not cows. The method you are trying to imply is for people who buys USD like you, it's basically 'cheating' if you look at it from a different perspective.
Moreover, I don't mean to be rude Swaves, but just having a 'Professional Marketeer' in your signature doesn't necessarily make you one. I don't see a market graduation there. I do understand how you were trying to prove me wrong and regardless of your offensive strict statements, I can't find major flaws in my tutorial.
As for the 128x128, Thrandir and I always buy them at 1.2k each. Full 128's go down at 20-22k down at the Russian Market. People will come to you, you just have to keep a keen eye on the #market at IRC.
Originally Posted by DeakManiac
Swaves, upon myself being a secret undercover marketeer, I am here to correct you on one statement:
The #3, you say that no one sells 128 textures for that price? Maybe it's because you bump them all up to 1.5k each. I can easily buy 128 textures for 1.2k-1.4k with no problem unless someone goes in to kill good profit. Hell, I bought 4 once for 4k, and made 2k profit.
As for the OP, one flaw:
GMan flames can run pretty cheap, I had one that was a 71 ID and only sold it for 35k after barley pulling off a 2k profit. Most flames are looked at from the size, color, and the part it is on more then the forger and age.
The maker does matter in some places. FNugget flames are very high demanding. A simple box flame around the hand that has barely any trail was sold for 40k a few days ago.
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Or send me a private message, I'm responsive.
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[9:14 AM] Viddah: Just remember if you step on toes youre gonna have to suck on them to make the pain go away
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